Have F1’s new rules hurt Mercedes’ low-rake car concept?

24 mar. 2021
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Mercedes has been one of the few F1 teams in recent years not to follow the ‘high rake’ ride height concept pioneered by Red Bull. But have the rule changes around the floor of the 2021 cars created an aerodynamic situation that works against the Mercedes concept? In this video Edd Straw explains what ‘rake’ really means, how it impacts the downforce produced by an F1 car, and why the rule changes for this year could be causing Mercedes headaches
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  • It will be a case of different problems same results. Mercedes will win the championship once again. Please wake me when they withdraw from F1.

    Michael LinnerMichael LinnerAcum 2 Zile
  • Mercedes fans: THIS IS AN OUTRAGE The other 99% of F1 fans: Better late than never I guess.

    Jeff ConoverJeff ConoverAcum 5 Zile
  • I'm always hanging out by my tires, hoping I'll get some tire squirt.

    Mechanically CreativeMechanically CreativeAcum 9 Zile
  • This must be one of the best aerodynamics videos I have ever seen, well done guys!

    KyleCBowmanKyleCBowmanAcum 9 Zile
  • No!

    Robbie NLRobbie NLAcum 9 Zile
  • The new F1 rules were literally designed to lower Mercedes performance... obviously it hurt them.

    Beau GoddardBeau GoddardAcum 11 Zile
  • Fun fact: my driver number has always been 22 , ever since f1 2017

    KynxKynxAcum 11 Zile
  • Tire squirt, I like the sound of that

    Isaac MIsaac MAcum 11 Zile
  • It's funny, they just bend the rules so they still win the race and when Verstappen goes ahead and does a bit of rulebending (unintentionally, he couldn't rejoin the track immediately and had oversteer) He gets penalized. Fun sport FIA, really enjoyable to watch this way,...

    SW3RVYSW3RVYAcum 12 Zile
  • So if merc can't win by low rake then Undercut by pit

    TineFanGamingTineFanGamingAcum 12 Zile
  • Simple answer. Yes.

    smylebutta7250smylebutta7250Acum 12 Zile
  • I wonder if this was anticipated and this was seen as a way to allow Red Bull to truly mount a charge against the Merc? If so, it worked and made for a pretty exciting Bahrain finish. I also think it might shut up the Lewis haters who think he only won because he always had the fastest car.

    joseph humphreyjoseph humphreyAcum 12 Zile
  • The real question is how much hurt has Mercedes done to formula 1 !!!

    John O'MahoneyJohn O'MahoneyAcum 13 Zile
  • Good reporting.

    Joseph BolesJoseph BolesAcum 13 Zile
  • Clearly not 😂

    Michael SMichael SAcum 14 Zile
  • Not if F! is gonna let them get away with track limits.

    Josh GallupJosh GallupAcum 14 Zile
  • So after all the mercedes nerfing (engin modes, aero etc etc) they are still winnong........

    Chris DiedChris DiedAcum 14 Zile
  • LoL you got it wrong again..... ffs

    Chris DiedChris DiedAcum 14 Zile
  • F1 officials are trying to figure out how to get the other team to catch up

    adam kerradam kerrAcum 14 Zile
  • So which teams have high rake angles and which teams have low rake angles?

    Ashray HebbarAshray HebbarAcum 14 Zile
  • Shut the hell up. Hurt ?? FIA worked with Mercedes for years to make them the most dominant team ever in this sport. I would be saying they were hurt by new rules if Hamilton was 6th or 7th on the qualy day with more than a second away from Max.

    RollingEyes CroatRollingEyes CroatAcum 14 Zile
  • Mercedes 1-2 or 2-1...

    Bruno StraubBruno StraubAcum 14 Zile
  • Very informative. Thanks!

    Alan GriffinAlan GriffinAcum 14 Zile
  • So after watching this video I'm left wondering why anyone would go down the low rake path. Are there any advantages at all?

    alan macalan macAcum 14 Zile
    • Generate less downforce. This will increase the car's acceleration in the long straights, so Mercedes and Aston Martin may just be better on certain tracks such as Monza, Canada, and Azerbaijan. But testing sessions this year in Bahrain (a low downforce track) has so far suggested that the benefit of having better grip during the corners outweighs the benefit of having reduced downforce in the long straights.

      Sergey the Web DevSergey the Web DevAcum 13 Zile
  • ' : "Have F1’s new rules hurt Mercedes’ low-rake car concept?" I'd be surprised if so with all the shenanigans F1A has pulled to aid Mercedes during the hybrid era . Secret tire testing using Rosberg and Hamilton (in disguise) instead of required team reserve drivers at Monaco Test . Mercedes struggling early in season with tires overheating so Pirelli reduces tire thickness mid season to aid Mercedes causing most teams on the grid to suffer with tire issues after building their cars around that season's tire regulations . DAS system employed by Mercedes last year allowing drivers to manipulate front steering system geometry under parc firme conditions . Obvious violation of the rules yet judged OK to use for 2020 season .

    kls2020kls2020Acum 15 Zile
  • Looking forward to how Hamilton will react to loosing half a sec per round to MAX :)

    Jorg KuijtJorg KuijtAcum 15 Zile
  • It’s ok that’s what everyone will say at the end of the season to they’re sandbagging when they get beat it’s ok we’ve been sandbagging for the last 5 years but we’re getting they’re

  • Mercedes still sandbagging in Q3? 😅

    schumifan78schumifan78Acum 15 Zile
  • All these sandbagging comments, Red Bull just smashed Mercedes by 0.4 sec to pole, C'MON!!!! 😁

    schumifan78schumifan78Acum 15 Zile
  • Mercedes well known for rear end stability for the last 6 years. Vettel - joins Mercedes family. Rear end stability: I will enable self-destruct.

    VladKVladKAcum 15 Zile
  • Best explanation I've EVER heard. Thank you!

    Homerlovesbeer2Homerlovesbeer2Acum 15 Zile
  • Mercedes using the tatic of pretending they are off pace to give everybody false hope that this year we will see a more competitive Grand Prix , and come qualifing they will finish 1st on pole and win race on sunday ....

    Dielowren 39Dielowren 39Acum 15 Zile
  • I think Merc have been so good that even when the evidence of your eyes tell ou one thing. You disbelieve yourself. You are doing the number on your own head. Hope I’m wrong but I don’t think Merc will be all conquering this year...PLEASE....PLEASE, racing. I wonder what the reaction will be if RedBull just run away. Will it be the ar or the driver?

    BlacktaffBlacktaffAcum 15 Zile
  • Great Video - Well explained and should be fun to watch the first few races. Mercedes may be sandbagging in certain ways but a twitchy backend and snap oversteer is not a way you would sandbag when there is possibility that will result in a wreck. if the car looked stable and just a little slow, i would lean toward sandbagging, but i bet they are burning the midnight oil trying to figure out how to tame the rear end without losing speed.

    Pete HorlacherPete HorlacherAcum 15 Zile
  • Come Lewis, do it!!!

    Animal HeathenAnimal HeathenAcum 15 Zile
  • This is THE most information I've gotten about the rake concept. I've repeatidly heard about it and read about it whenever its briefly mentioned, but have never had it fully detailed this much.

  • I'm a Lewis fan but this is Verstappen's year.

    Ricky LazareRicky LazareAcum 15 Zile
  • if they do win the first race, they were just sandbagging. If they don´t, Redbull was favored by changes in regulations

    thexittothexittoAcum 15 Zile
  • So thats what all thos cry donkeys want now there it is Redbull fast

    BfairBfairAcum 16 Zile
  • perfect, fck them

    Bas bzbBas bzbAcum 16 Zile
  • The new cars look a little weird with the new rules. Thanks for explaining everything. Come on Schumacher, I've never been so excited to see a man start racing f1 since, well, the great man himself . I sincerely hope Micheal can watch his boy.

    Barry SargentBarry SargentAcum 16 Zile
  • i hope you are right. The mercs are annoyingly good. Though as a dutchy i have an orange view i also hope mclaren will do well.

    JK VisionsJK VisionsAcum 16 Zile
  • If Mercedes really do struggle, we can expect Horner & Verstroppen to cream their knickers as they've constantly being crying about how much better Mercs were.

    Paul BellPaul BellAcum 16 Zile
  • Interesting video. Would have been great if you’d have explained what the benefits of the Mercedes low rake philosophy are, as you did the high rake on the red bull.

    Mr SmithMr SmithAcum 16 Zile
  • just raise the rear.

    mat kmat kAcum 16 Zile
  • I remember when I didn't know physics

    Adam CourchaineAdam CourchaineAcum 16 Zile
  • Why does F1 make rules like banning physical skirts? Why do they care and how do these types of rule changes help the racing? Every time they make rules it diminishes the racing.

    gizzy guzzigizzy guzziAcum 16 Zile
    • Going around an uneven surface like a race track opens up gaps in those physical skirts and that can radically disrupt the balance of the car, making it very unpredictable and easy to crash.

  • 🤔👍🤔

    Linda MLinda MAcum 16 Zile
  • Love how Toto was already making excuses about this and the season hasn't even started yet lol

    Tyler DowdTyler DowdAcum 16 Zile
  • I hope they’re going to struggle the whole season. They had dominated enough during the previous 6 seasons!

    Duster McCleanDuster McCleanAcum 16 Zile
  • this is bs same as the sandbagging

    Zinedine ZidaneZinedine ZidaneAcum 16 Zile
  • red bull typically have reliability issues so even if they have a faster car.......their car will breakdown more.

    Fire UpFire UpAcum 16 Zile
  • I lost it at Tyre "squirt".

    sheffieldgeeksheffieldgeekAcum 16 Zile
  • McLaren with there rear diffuser setup could be the dark horse this season.

    General RAAMGeneral RAAMAcum 16 Zile
  • Videos like this remind me why I come on ROworld! Great info

    Anarchy JayAnarchy JayAcum 16 Zile
  • Enjoyed the video, but asking for subs + bell at the 50 second mark is an instand dislike...

    Ryan WigneyRyan WigneyAcum 16 Zile
  • Message Now: (Eight

    Candace LauraCandace LauraAcum 16 Zile
  • This could be the year that Mercedes say goodbye to the low-budget race series.... it’s a joke.

    Indside the CockpitIndside the CockpitAcum 16 Zile
  • its just lies... Mercedes will dominate 2021 season.

    Naveet BawejaNaveet BawejaAcum 16 Zile
  • Definitely new regulations have affected Mercedes the most and we will have a scrap between Max and Perez for the driver championship.

    MrTkeddoMrTkeddoAcum 16 Zile
  • Mercedes never give the full picture at testing

    Giant PuttGiant PuttAcum 16 Zile
  • you are the only f1 channel with consistent quality content. your voice is just soo nice to listen to. love it

    Anel SahinpasicAnel SahinpasicAcum 16 Zile
  • at least when top class bikkie riders have scuff marks on their knee pads it's for the speed unlike the f1 hero shit stirrer

    lee hobbslee hobbsAcum 16 Zile
  • P1 and P2 for Mercedes.. sandbagging 2.0

    Snow RabbitSnow RabbitAcum 16 Zile
  • Who cares about this .. We saw last season how FIA supported Mercedes. Do you think they won't do it and for this ? Nah ..

    Yuriy TanevYuriy TanevAcum 16 Zile
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    A AA AAcum 16 Zile
  • The high amount of rake on the red bull looks incredibly ugly.

    Guia GastonGuia GastonAcum 16 Zile
  • the race trying to squeeze more 'mercedes struggling' content in while they still can. I'm calling a merc 1-2 this weekend, with RB being Formula 1.25, then a whole lotta Formula 1.5 and Haas.... well Haas would probably be quicker if theyd send their NASCAR program to Bahrain...

    Richard NaujoksRichard NaujoksAcum 16 Zile
  • F1 always finds a way to trim the wings of the dominant car.

    Jay A MJay A MAcum 16 Zile
  • This is excellently presented. Thank you

    Vytas BanysVytas BanysAcum 16 Zile
  • tyre squirt is my new word...

    Milton DejesusMilton DejesusAcum 16 Zile
  • Seriously guys Merc pulls this act every year. and the media beat it up into a big thing. They are sandbagging.

    John WilliamJohn WilliamAcum 16 Zile
  • This is an incredible video, the kind of content I've been craving for years! More please, great job guys!

    Zev MosesZev MosesAcum 16 Zile
  • Nothing much wrong with that Merc they fix the problem and just keep on winning love it if they really started to struggle would make things interesting for once.

    tony masontony masonAcum 16 Zile
  • They are depleated uranium bagging

    S BaykoS BaykoAcum 16 Zile
  • No.

    lb8068lb8068Acum 16 Zile
  • No

    Sat's vaultSat's vaultAcum 16 Zile
  • ROworld: Tire Squirt Red Tube: Just Squirt

    DK101GTDK101GTAcum 16 Zile
  • Mercedes play's the hurt animal but in the end they will win again 👎

    Vagelis VerverasVagelis VerverasAcum 16 Zile
  • F1 rules designed to slow Mercedes down actually working, Man who would thought it.

    michael williamsmichael williamsAcum 17 Zile
  • first quali: Mercedes 1st wtih 0.750s before anybody

    karelpipakarelpipaAcum 17 Zile
  • WHAT IF this was Ross Brawn's grand idea from the beginning.

    TykksoTykksoAcum 17 Zile
  • I'm assuming they chose that area of the floor based on how many times we've seen Mercedes struggle performance wise whenever they've occurred damage in that area. Not to say that other teams don't struggle as well, it's just that they're not the ones dominating the field... IJS

    BigMic69BigMic69Acum 17 Zile
  • Mercedes slaps a 'McLaren diffuser' and there you have it problem solved.

    Eugénio MontêsEugénio MontêsAcum 17 Zile
  • If Mercedes are struggling with stability, that will be exacerbated by a typically windy Bahrain. I really they'll struggle unless they find a last minute fix.

    gad gupgad gupAcum 17 Zile
  • *Merc-proofed F1 to end this phase of the hybrid era? Yes, please! A man can wish...* Given their aero philosophy, their response to the chunks being taken out of the floor from 2020 to 2021 seems to have fallen short of recouping the lost downforce. Starting with _W05,_ their all-conquering hybrid era beasts have essentially almost always been the pick of the grid in terms of front end responsiveness but given up something to the high-rake brigade in terms of rear stability. _Merc_ appear to have failed to regain the ironclad front-to-rear air-shaping that guaranteed their ultrahigh downforce when dialled in. Here's hoping it takes them time to dial in the aero this season and that they _S🅱️inalla_ and chomp tyres faster to add to their woes and prevent another procession to the world titles!

    y1521t21b5y1521t21b5Acum 17 Zile
  • THE RACE and naive fans: Mercedes will be struggling. Mercedes: So anyway I started dominating...

    V LV LAcum 17 Zile
  • Paid sandbagging and panicing advert by Mercedes

    SeriouzhnyaSeriouzhnyaAcum 17 Zile
  • I'll come back to this when they're 150 points ahead at mid-season.

    Sean SuttonSean SuttonAcum 17 Zile
  • Hamilton after race one, "This is to all the youngster, if you keep fighting you can come out on top"

    imran2nvimran2nvAcum 17 Zile
  • Mercedes were struggling and RB looked pretty fast... I think it's gonna be another year of bad tires and complete domination from Mercedes

    Joel EstadellaJoel EstadellaAcum 17 Zile
  • Mercedes is not going to win this year.

    Alan TaylorAlan TaylorAcum 17 Zile
  • The secretive car reveal had me thinking the silver arrows had some new innovation at the back end, something ground breaking like the Brawn double diffuser. Now it night be that rather than innovating, they are going to be forced to follow the high rake concept into next season, that really would bring the competition back...

    Joe SwiftJoe SwiftAcum 17 Zile
  • Not being an aero expert, I find this video BRILLIANT. I've heard all the buzzwords before but now I understand what those buzzwords mean and how they pertain to real life.

    HolyGuacamoleHolyGuacamoleAcum 17 Zile
  • Is McLaren not running a low rake as well?

    kudasonkudasonAcum 17 Zile
  • Hey narator, i don't know your name. But I'm a big fan of your work.

    Ferrus FlandriiFerrus FlandriiAcum 17 Zile
  • The best on-line explanation of body aero pieces I've ever seen.

    William Olsen IIWilliam Olsen IIAcum 17 Zile
  • In all honesty I hope they do 2nd in the season but it is Mercedes so I say they get 1st and then hopefully struggle in the next era of formula 1 but even that is doubtful

    Gordon FanGordon FanAcum 17 Zile
  • man i can't really complaing about THE RACE saying that Merc might not be the best team based on the pre testing, they are just trying their best to sell us, this season while they can. and if i'm wrong and they are right, who cares we'll all get a competitive season

    GOGOgomesGOGOgomesAcum 17 Zile
  • Don't they also get more downforce because the air is pushing on the top part of the car, and since it is at a higher angle it pushes down more?

    Jarad DoyonJarad DoyonAcum 17 Zile