The astonishing details from F1’s Grosjean crash investigation, and what changes are coming
The FIA has released the findings from its detailed investigation into Romain Grosjean’s fireball crash in the Bahrain Grand Prix last year. In this video Edd Straw picks out the key details from the investigation, the new pieces of information about the crash that have been revealed, and what F1 will be focusing on in its bid to reduce the chance of a similar accident happening again
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Amazing escape and congratulations to the medical and safety teams who helped. Fuck his team management. Complete and utter bastards.
The man who walked from the fire
It's amazing they're still using ARMCO barriers. That's what stuck out the most to me.
Amazing info! So happy this was not a tragegy.
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Props to God on this one.
I can’t believe they used dry powder, it’s knock down ability was almost nil, does anyone know why AFFF is not used, I’m ex fireman and AFFF Has always been my go to first extinguisher,
No. Not sure.
I legit thought I watched him die when I saw the crash. After seeing not just the explosion but the car being ripped in half, I thought he would've been decapitated until I remembered the halo. Kudos for the FIA for implementing that and to everyone involved with the readiness of the safety precautions.
They've made miraculous safety improvements and changes since Jimmy Clark's death and Jackie Stewart's near death can you imagine taking that same crash in a lotus in the 60s at the same speeds amazing
Number one safety feature in this crash was God and His angels.
Everything worked the way it should... but for the fire. The fuel cell needs to be redesigned and located to stop it from bursting. Slam the fuel cell into a wall at 300kph, without bursting: Problem solved.
What stood out for me was the track fire team seemed confused as to how to handle this. The doc had to help one get the extinguisher going and it didn’t look like they knew what to do. That’s the scary part and needs to change.
This was god showing him it’s time to step away and return to his family. He is the man who walked out of fire. Tough as nails. Honestly, the medics are terrible, they need crash responders to extract the victim and hand him over to the doctors. Having the doctor assisting the man out of the car is just asking for trouble. Not to mention Grosjean revived virtually no help in exiting.
The most disturbing fact is that Romain would have been dead if he would have been unable to climb out himself. That still needs to be fixed/improved....
The another disturbing fact is that the chance that he would be able to climb himself was close to zero in this circumstances - 200 km/h speed, 67G impact, 28 secs of a fireball, car stuck in the fence. In those cases normally a driver needs to be extracted from the car. What if he would be unconscious or disoriented or would have been stuck completely? Or If he broke just one leg or arm? Or If he was in panic and take some wrong decisions? Or If he gave up after realizing that he is completely stuck in fire? All these scenarios led to his death.
That was toastie
Luck got nothing to do with it,
It's a testament to the F1 management that they've listened enough that this wasn't fatal. If they'd done that 30 years ago we might have had Senna for longer. Good it's better now. Just jaw dropping he walked away from that. Luv and Peace.
For me the most lucky part about this crash not becoming a fatal crash, was the various rotational forces that redirected the inertia and after the initial contact. The primary contact at 60 deg, converted to rotation that swung the mass of the engine and rear drive train around the center of gravity breaking it off. This action took away a lot of the inertia forces. Next the barrier failure and the halo snagging the top rail, allowing the cockpit to further rotate about its longitudinal axis redirection of the stopping forces downward relative to greaujean, dissipating the g forces into his back and seat. All of these redirections in a fraction of a seccond.. But they saved his life. Had the impact penetrated the barrier in a straight line the failure of the lower rails, would have done little to slow the safety cell going right through with a hard downward force of the halo forcing its way under the top rail. This could have allowed greaujeans head to be thrown forward and become more exposed as the halo decended. Effectively raising the position of his helmet in the halo surround. The bottom edge of the top rail could have ripped through the top if his helmet if part of the rail buckled downward or the halo being deformed or broken.... Accidents are a compilation of events that come together to create a situation that cannot be avoided and prevent the "accident". Here some of the events that took place actually helped make this a survivable accident, but not forgetting greaujean's reactions and actions taking an important part in his fast extraction. Unlucky but lucky... Worst accident ive seen in any of the 60 years of F1 races ive watched, and the happiest outcome possible... Boy that was a close one...
The fellas doing the fire suppression seemed very under trained. If you watch video replay you'll see that pretty much anyone with an extinguisher was hesitant in doing their job and very confused. Nothing replaces repetitive training.
He’s been a liability and was the most dangerous driver on the track for the past 5 years. Sad that it happened but come on.....
Props to all the safety gear(suits, helmets, gloves, shoes)for the drivers now. This was a real life test to show that the equipment can stand up. Also, the rescue team did a phenomenal job. Granted the heat kept them back for a bit, but they didnt stop trying. Great job!
It's Netflix's fault.
I think it was a miracle that he was not knocked unconscious on impact. The fact he stayed conscious and got himself out saved his life. 🙏 glad he made it out safe, it was a very serious crash.
God saved this man and that's the miracle.
Modern crash safety.
28 seconds to escape? Seemed like forever, and certainly didn't look possible! It was such a relief to see Grosjean walk out of the flames.....
Watched this on Netflix last night. Pretty sure I forgot to breathe for a minute
5 years ago he would not have survived.
It's a pity vaccine manufacturers aren't as concerned with safety as the FIA
The investigation should have centred on how was such a wild driver ever allowed to get behind the wheel of an F1, and what bribes were, and are being paid to get bad drivers onto super licences.
Kudos to the FIA's safety dept for being so uncompromising in implementing strict safety measures.
I wonder if he would have come out of the crash better if that inside barrier hadn't been a single-layer guardrail and had instead been something like a SAFER barrier in NASCAR or at least something solid instead of something that could have been penetrated. The only courses I think that NASCAR still runs on that use Armco or something like that are the road courses, I think. All the oval tracks have gone to SAFER barriers for most all their vulnerable points, some I think are 100% SAFER around the entire track now.
This was a superbly organized video! Very well done
6:15 It almost looks like Grosjean wants to walk back to his car to continue his race.
Be careful how you word matters of G force, at they are very local. 67G to Grosjean sounds incredible but I doubt that it is correct, based on the deformation of the crash barrier, it seems more like the car's sensors recorded 67G (very likely). Grosjean world have felt a factor less than that due to impact padding etc. Thankfully he survived, and cudos to the people who helped him. Still it's interesting to see that fia learns from such accidents and takes action. Good work..
The FIA has fully examined all the factors involved in the accident and has concluded that significant safety improvements for F1 in the future can be made by Grosjean not being present on the grid. I think it’s a miracle the guy didn’t kill someone during his time in F1. Goodluck to those racing against him in the future.
Why no criticism of HALO? Typical that no-one can actually say why HALO was supposed to have 'done its job' yet people like these fools simply say it is so because that's the narrative and yet there's no evidence at all HALO worked and yet we know factually it hindered Grosjeans egress.
Monza and Monaco shouldn't exist in regards of safety and rescue. Comparing to modern circuits the two are nightmares.
Imagine what would happen if he didnt wear the new suit that had higher fire resistance standards. he would have similar burns like his hands all over his body.
It is unbelievable that any circuit would not have some sort of padding/tyres/speed arresting in front of all armco barriers, why is this not obvious to everyone?
I've been watching F1 for over 40 years. My first thought was of Nikki Lauda's crash. I absolutely, immediately thought, when I saw this crash, that he was gone. No way someone walks away from that kind of fire for that long. Not jammed like that against the rail like that, with the car split in two. I was very glad I was wrong. Just amazing. from design to the performance of the safety crew on the scene, and the sheer will of Grosjean himself.
Has anyone survived 67gs before?
I fail to understand how he remained conscious from an impact like that - its a miracle.
All the safety gear.
The 67G impact was registered where exactly? On the car or on the drivers body? Was 67G at the moment of impact, so before the nose cone disintegrated and barrier deformed? How many G did the driver endure after the crash absorption seat belts ect did their job? Fire response could improve for the safety car, by employing the indycar style of operation, a 50kg powder cylinder in the trunk or strapped to back seat with a 20 meter hose. (Same units as pictured on the back of the pickup truck)
Thanks for this great analysis.
This barrier should not be there. There should be gravel trap and tires wall before solid barries, and it should be allign in different angle in respect to track direction. In my opinion, track design was bad.
DID RICHARD MILLE SURVIVE ?
Jules Biachis death and Formula Ones response to it - The Halo and the stronger safety cell because of the addition of the Halo - is why Grosjean survived. When Grosjean jumped over that guardrail , I had tears of joy in my eyes. Rest in Peace Jules.
20 years ago this would have been another tombstone, respect to everyone who helped keep a racer racing
Very Closed called Medical Car sure Drone should the next thing as fire fighter been monitored.
I think the medical vehicle occupants need to wear full face helmets & fire gear, the 1st responder could not get as close as he wanted to due to his face being scalded.
Cevert, Koinigg..that was the 70s. Amazed they still use these barriers.
Any chance of upgrading those pee-wee fire extinguishers to units that can actually put down a major fire?
I'm curious as to whether a partial halo failure could act to block the driver's exit from the cockpit.
I betchu Hass was doing the bare minimum for safety.
Wouldn’t it make sense to have padded barriers around all circumference of the track like BSB super bikes for instance? Or am I missing something? 👀
1. I hate when 67 g is dubbed a "force", the term to use is "acceleration". 2. I'd like that applicable considerations were extended to street cars.
If you change the rules for every crash F1 will be a walk in the park, a car designed to survive one type of crash will not survive another type of crash, this uber focus on safety keeps safety and staying safe firmly in the forefront of most peoples minds, no wonder no one takes chances. A society of Snowflakes are what you end up with.
F1 will now be much safer because Grosjean is no longer in it. Indycar drivers beware!
Omg we already fucking know.
Didn’t he name the fire Hugo or something
So glad he escaped and pleased that the lessons learned from this awful incident will help keep drivers and all involved safer in the future
Perfect example of how very safe cars can still result in tragedy when impacting a very UNsafe barrier. This was avoidable
More focus needs to be made on circuit design safety. That wall barrier was sticking out like a sore thumb and just waiting for someone to hit it.
Diane Biglow, You are absolutely correct much more circuit design needs correcting. That type of barrier should be long gone.
This happened to the best guy with the worst luck in F1 racing currently. I feel bad for him because he seems to crash a lot. He's such a nice guy and has the potential to win. I only heard/saw a bout this crash 2 weeks after it happened and seeing him come out of the car, and then hearing his recount of the crash got me emotional. So glad he lived Also, Kudos to the designers and FiA to immediately address safety advances in car and track and policy. I look forward to the next car design to come from the results of this crash. I hope fortune smiles upon Grosjean and he gets a Win very soon. To Add: I saw a video of the onboard communications between the other drivers and their pit crew. It's amazing how much they really do care about one another when they see a crash occur. At the end of the day they don't want to see one of their brothers die. At that point, it's not about winning any more, it's about Life. Much respect to those boys who cared to ask about Grosjean.
Very glad he made it out Ok but still can't wrap my brain around Grojean holding on to a F1 seat for as long as he did.
I saw this live... I was just watching the telly cause my father-in-law loves F1 and we were sitting together... I remember just thinking, "welp, he's dead". I was astonished when the first footage of him actually getting out was released.
what the foxtrot is "pre-planning"?
The sore goose cephalometrically plug because weapon physiologically describe unlike a crooked glove. deeply, rebel collar
Romain Grosjean has in-ear accelerometers? I always suspected that F1 drivers were cyborgs... Except Kimi Räikkönen - he's a full-on alien.
It was only a matter of time for Grosjean, the guy was the most dangerous driver on the track.
He is such a lucky lucky guy watched it live on tv and was horrified definitely thought no one could survive
Tracks could look at the USA Ovals "safer barrier" ! I think these barriers are a incredible tool for safer racing.
Romain Grosjean - The man that walked out of fire.
Those who watched this live witnessed a miracle.
Diane Biglow, SO TRUE
It was a horrible crash. Response time was good, although response effectiveness needs to me improved. I saw poor extinguisher use. Responders without proper head gear, causing them to not be able to get closer and properly sweep the base of the flames. I would actually love to see the types of extinguishers used. I did notice a few powder, types, and two looked like water (heaven forbid--- I hope I'm wrong), but what I never saw was foam residue. BUt... a lot was going on within 30 seconds of the crash. I'm glad the story ends with burnt hands rather than flowers being laid at the base of the guard rail.
if no Halo his head would be separated from his body 100%
So if he were a bit slower, he might got stuck right under the barrier? 😱
Definitely look into the fire not being knocked back even a little bit. Fire fighting tactics and people trained in it
bad driver,
I'm pretty sure the firesuits were only upgraded that season, which gave him extra time. I don't recall how much extra time they said it would give, but I wonder, if this had occurred in 2019, would he have survived? Or survived with such minor injuries? Either way, a very lucky man to have survived, but also very unlucky that the car separated the way it did and that the barrier failed.
Romain has to be one of the most selfish drivers there is for continuing to race after this second chance at life, when he knows he needs to spend more time with his family now that he has this second chance. I guess racing's forever in the blood now.
Solid metal barriers with no water barrels or tires to cushion the decelerating forces at that track in the year 2020 is damn disgraceful. Also, the distance from the track to the barrier is too close. Also, it should not be at an angle. Also, track firefighters need to have strong fire extinguishers that can put out a full tank petrol fire in seconds.
Those two shouldnt have been in that Haas last year... awful drivers endangering everyone else on the track multiple times. Cost the Haas team millions for their contract then millions in repairs and time for mechanics. I'll never understand why they were allowed to race. Surely there was 1 or 2 Americans capable of driving for the American owned team... MAG and GRO were terrible... Glad he was OK obviously but yeah his contract should have finished after his second year in F1.
I still don't understand how he got out after 3 attempts. Just beyond comprehension!
I gave this video a mighty "thumbs down" because this video is nothing more than pure B.S publicity produced by F-1 apologists.
You F-1 guys think you are so elite. As an IndyCar fan, let me tell you that we no longer use steel guardrails that date back to the 1930s. This crash would have NEVER happened on a contemporary IndyCar track.
I’m no expert but just steel barrier without tyres for F1 racing ❓🤦🏻
I think it's amazing
His hand looks like a half cooked steak
When I saw it live I had the same feeling after seeing Huberts crash in Formula 2, it is indescribable
67G... Holy shit... its about 10 times the G a jet pilot gets when he makes crazy moves... unbelievable
Very pleased he walked away. however, 'a number of areas for safety improvements' - stopping Grosjean from getting behind the wheel of a car is a good start - lovely fella, but when other teams (and probably his own) have bets on whether he'll last the first corner, it's probably safe to say he's a bit of a drama magnet, to be polite.
Hey FIA, get rid of ARMCO Barriers! Replace with SAFER Barriers!
67Gs are phenomenal
He was luckey, everything worked in his favor.
Why did the middle barrier split?
amazing how far we have come in car safety... 67g supposed impact!!!!!! lets do 50 g's amazing he lived.... F1 still impressive, with more to come... glad everyone was safe!
It took 11 seconds for the medical car to arrive? That's actually crazy good.
Motorsport is like aviation when it comes to improving safety
As horrible as Grosjeans crash was, it's terrifyingly similar to the accident that the late Nikki Lauda suffered. The fact that he walked away with only burns to his hands is testament to the advancement in safety that we've seen in the last few decades. Sometimes it may seem detrimental to the sport, like when the halo was first introduced and drivers themselves were worried about visibility, but in the end the safety of drivers should be paramount.
thanks for using mph when 90% of f1 audience uses kmh.